Posts by John Aquila

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Rumor about the Imitate Jesus Convention

by FusionTheism in

i saw a rumor a few weeks ago on reddit that the new imitate jesus convention is supposed to present new light and clarified understandings on the disfellowshipping/disassociation practices.. supposedly, if this rumor has any truth to it, there will be a talk given at the convention about how we should not be strict like the pharisees in how we shun people, loosening up some of the jw rules about this practice.. has anyone here heard anything about this or have more info on it?.

John Aquila

however can you imagine the "weeping and gnashing of teeth" there would be on the part of all those parents and grandparents who lost whole decades of their lives spent shunning their kids? I know quite a few who would be doing just that.

Not as bad as those that lost loved ones who died because they were not allow certain blood fractions that are now acceptable.

Their growth has gone from 15% pre 1975 to 2% 2013 so is it possible that it has finally clicked. In other words the downward spiral of growth has finally woken them up to either do something or fizzle out. The practice of shunning is now open to the public and it is a practice that repels new membership. So for the sake of staying alive and getting more mainstream, I can see it happening. And if it happens the members will praise the Governing Body for the New Light and confirm in their minds that God is directing the Only Channel on earth.

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Questions about the Flood for Brother Jeramy

by cappytan in

how long did the flood last?how long can land vegetation survive submerged in seawater?how long can freshwater fish survive in saltwater?how old is human civilization?

what is the oldest settlement in south america?

how did those people get there from the middle east after the flood wiped out everything on the earth?.

John Aquila

Here's a thought. Would it had been a lot simpler for God to tell Noah, gather all the animals at the top of the mountain and your family, I will bring rain for 40 days until it reach about 50 feet from the top. That way all will be safe and you have vegetation plus it not necessary to cover all the mountain top. No need to spend years a building a boat, more time to preach...

Cool! How about this;

God speaking; Good morning Noah, can you do some clean up, I just killed all the evil people last night in their sleep, plus you can kill a cow and enjoy hot-dogs tonight because I didn't kill any of the millions of animals.

(2 Kings 19:35) And it came about on that night that the angel of Jehovah proceeded to go out and strike down a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the camp of the As·syr′i·ans. When people rose up early in the morning, why, there all of them were dead carcasses. . .

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Is Rank a sign of gullibility?

by John Aquila in

there was a man who was baptized in my old hall in his mid-30s and was into everything.

one day i stopped by his house and he opened the door and he was in his white saggy underwear and had this green goo all over his head, chest and legs.

he had purchase on the internet this formula that would grow hair.

John Aquila

There was a man who was baptized in my old hall in his mid-30s and was into everything. One day I stopped by his house and he opened the door and he was in his white saggy underwear and had this green goo all over his head, chest and legs. He had purchase on the internet this formula that would grow hair. He had lost his head hair in his 20s and had no chest or leg hair. We went to his study room and he has all kinds of books and gadgets that he had ordered on the internet. (How to learn karate in 10 day, grow 6 inches in 6 weeks, how to get beautiful women to love you, increase you IQ in a month, how to read someone’s mind, what do women really want) The guy was single.

He rose through the JW ranks quickly-pioneer, MS, elder-sub-CO.

So here is my question; is rank in the WT world a measure of gullibility. In other words, are Circuit overseers more gullible than elders, and elders more gullible than ministerial servants, and down the line?

It seems like the ones that never reached out and were hardly in field service were doing the best financially and other wise.

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Are J.W.'s as Gullible as the Org's Writings Imply?

by The Searcher in

the latest watchtower certainly indicates that the org thinks they are!!

why keep in expectation?

watchtower august 15 par.

John Aquila

Luke 21:8 (BBE) And he said, Take care that you are not tricked: for a number of people will come in my name, saying, “The time is near” : do not go after them.

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August 2015 WT - Let's Review the BS Children

by InjusticeSystem in

found these gems in this edition:.

- keep in expectation!- prepare now for life in the new worldthe passing of time should not cause us to lose hope thatkingdom blessings will be realized.

there are solid reasonsto keep our scriptural expectations alive.

John Aquila

Can't get rid of 1914/607. It is the only thing keeping the organization together. Every single JW is Waiting for God to starting destroying everything and everyone except them. And it is all based on that one date. If they get rid of that date, there is no paradise to wait for anymore. It was all a ruse. That is the most Shocking thing of TTATT. That is what blows you away.

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Crap Shoot

by John Aquila in

what would have happen if i was not home when jehovahs witnesses knocked on my door?.

there was a group of us living in a small trailer in the mid 60s when and old pioneer brother knocked on our door and placed all kinds of books and magazines with us.

all of us took it seriously and studied and started attending the kingdom hall.

John Aquila

So "What if..." can get a person in trouble if they dwell on it too much.

I'm already in trouble OnTheWayOut

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Crap Shoot

by John Aquila in

what would have happen if i was not home when jehovahs witnesses knocked on my door?.

there was a group of us living in a small trailer in the mid 60s when and old pioneer brother knocked on our door and placed all kinds of books and magazines with us.

all of us took it seriously and studied and started attending the kingdom hall.

John Aquila

I think those who become JW's on their own (not born in) are already a bit lost or are searching or are heading for a fall and having any kind of strong direction in their lives is an improvement. JW's are out there actively recruiting people and the odds of them finding and attracting lost ones is very high

I agree 100% Pete Zahut

How many people do you know who were doing really well in life already, joined the JW's as adults?

In about 45 years as a JW--------NONE!-------0----------ziltzh!

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Crap Shoot

by John Aquila in

what would have happen if i was not home when jehovahs witnesses knocked on my door?.

there was a group of us living in a small trailer in the mid 60s when and old pioneer brother knocked on our door and placed all kinds of books and magazines with us.

all of us took it seriously and studied and started attending the kingdom hall.

John Aquila

My life would have been better simply because I would have had options.

Crazyguy, I think that is the Key. Michal Jackson's daughter was being forced by her grandmother to go to meetings and field service until finally the she refused. She had options. (Money, connections, youth, good looks.)

But some people have no options, in my Old Kingdom Hall an old homeless lady in her 50s living under the bridge was contacted by the JW sisters. They studied with her, told her she had to clean up her life and support herself to please Jehovah. The woman did and they helped her get a job at McDonalds and to this day she still works, is presentable, and has a circle of friends in the organization who invite her to gatherings and such. So for her, it was a good thing. I doubt it if anyone else would have taken the initiative to help her out. She had been homeless for years.

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Crap Shoot

by John Aquila in

what would have happen if i was not home when jehovahs witnesses knocked on my door?.

there was a group of us living in a small trailer in the mid 60s when and old pioneer brother knocked on our door and placed all kinds of books and magazines with us.

all of us took it seriously and studied and started attending the kingdom hall.

John Aquila

many serious scientists suggest that traveling back in time would not allow any change. They state that were someone to interfere with the past, then in all possibilities, they ALWAYS DID INTERFERE WITH THE PAST and nothing ever changed. They believe that any ability to tinker with time would eventually have been discovered and all of time would be unstable because of it and it would unravel to the point where none of our universe could exist anymore.

Man, life can get pretty mind boggling, there is so much to learn and not enough time. That's the only thing that bugs me, I Want More Time.

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Why I remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Brother Jeramy in

allow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.

i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.

some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).

John Aquila

I'm not an active "WT," by which I mean that while I am a Christian witness of Jehovah, I am not an advocate of the Watchtower Society that has unrightfully imposed itself as an authority over the Family of my brothers and sisters.

You are guilty by association.

Get in a car with a group of men who rob a bank and kill a few people and tell me you will get away scot free without any punishment because you make “A Statement” that you are not an advocate of the men that just robbed and killed. The chances of you escaping punishment are nil, even if you are a righteous person.

The God of the Bible deals the same way with individuals who associate with groups of people engaging in wrongdoing.

(Ezekiel 21:3) . . .And you must say to the soil of Israel, ‘This is what Jehovah has said: “Here I am against you, and I will bring forth my sword out of its sheath and cut off from you righteous one and wicked one.

Those righteous ones were destroyed not because they were doing wrong,(They were righteous) but because they were “Part of an apostate nation”

Just like you are part of the WT.